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	<title>Comments on: Oscar Grant, and the Black Political Long Now</title>
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		<title>By: Constructive Feedback</title>
		<link>http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2009/01/11/oscar-grant-and-the-black-political-long-now/comment-page-1/#comment-22108</link>
		<dc:creator>Constructive Feedback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question brother - &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;How can the Black community justify the outrage displayed over &quot;Police shootings&quot; but operate with such underwhelming concern about Black on Black homicides?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I accept the fact that a police man shooting a Black man is a more &quot;qualitatively&quot; significant shooting incident than if a thug with a gun does so in the act of robbery.  The police will always have a higher standard to which they must be held to.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, when we cross reference &quot;quality&quot; with &quot;QUANTITY&quot; of killings within our community and worse, the low &quot;Homicide Closure rate&quot; that allows some killers of Black people to walk away with impunity - this entire episode is shown to be a ruse.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am NOT placing a point of obfuscation regarding the serious issue of the conflict between Blacks and the Police.  But for some people to pretend that the contextual backdrop of violence and murder that takes place within our communities is nothing short of dishonest.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Being one who is asked to proved SOLUTIONS to accompany my frequent criticisms of the Black Political and Civil Rights Establishment - I am made to wonder if THEY with their antics in regards to amplifying the police conflict but effectively keeping the Black on Black violence muffled - want a SOLUTION or just are interested in practicing in the space of their forte.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question brother &#8211; </p>
<p>How can the Black community justify the outrage displayed over &#8220;Police shootings&#8221; but operate with such underwhelming concern about Black on Black homicides?</p>
<p>I accept the fact that a police man shooting a Black man is a more &#8220;qualitatively&#8221; significant shooting incident than if a thug with a gun does so in the act of robbery.  The police will always have a higher standard to which they must be held to.</p>
<p>However, when we cross reference &#8220;quality&#8221; with &#8220;QUANTITY&#8221; of killings within our community and worse, the low &#8220;Homicide Closure rate&#8221; that allows some killers of Black people to walk away with impunity &#8211; this entire episode is shown to be a ruse.</p>
<p>I am NOT placing a point of obfuscation regarding the serious issue of the conflict between Blacks and the Police.  But for some people to pretend that the contextual backdrop of violence and murder that takes place within our communities is nothing short of dishonest.</p>
<p>Being one who is asked to proved SOLUTIONS to accompany my frequent criticisms of the Black Political and Civil Rights Establishment &#8211; I am made to wonder if THEY with their antics in regards to amplifying the police conflict but effectively keeping the Black on Black violence muffled &#8211; want a SOLUTION or just are interested in practicing in the space of their forte.</p>
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		<title>By: cnulan</title>
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		<dc:creator>cnulan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t let my use of the terminology &quot;black market entrepreneurs&quot; excite or confuse you Malik..., &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I haven&#039;t qualified the activity as either operational or aspirational -  the entertrainment industry on the other hand, has gone to great lengths to glamorize and romanticize it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#39;t let my use of the terminology &#8220;black market entrepreneurs&#8221; excite or confuse you Malik&#8230;, </p>
<p>I haven&#39;t qualified the activity as either operational or aspirational &#8211;  the entertrainment industry on the other hand, has gone to great lengths to glamorize and romanticize it.</p>
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		<title>By: Malik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 06:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You seem to assume that drug dealing is an aspiration rather than an expedient for young black men with few employment options. I&#039;ve never seen any evidence that supports that assumption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig,</p>
<p>You seem to assume that drug dealing is an aspiration rather than an expedient for young black men with few employment options. I&#39;ve never seen any evidence that supports that assumption.</p>
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		<title>By: cnulan</title>
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		<dc:creator>cnulan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 00:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and low intensity warfare between competing black market entrepreneurs whose business rivalries and disputes can not be adjudicated in civil courts due to the prohibition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and low intensity warfare between competing black market entrepreneurs whose business rivalries and disputes can not be adjudicated in civil courts due to the prohibition.</p>
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		<title>By: Irami Osei-Frimpong</title>
		<link>http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2009/01/11/oscar-grant-and-the-black-political-long-now/comment-page-1/#comment-22098</link>
		<dc:creator>Irami Osei-Frimpong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 22:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going the other way on the issue. I applaud the Police Chief&#039;s initiative and imagination. Expecting the police to solve our problems sounds overly entitled. We can&#039;t expect to outsource our sense of civic responsibility. If the crime is this bad, we should encourage a partnership between the police, the schools, and the neighborhood instead of paying some MAN with a gun to solve the issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m going the other way on the issue. I applaud the Police Chief&#39;s initiative and imagination. Expecting the police to solve our problems sounds overly entitled. We can&#39;t expect to outsource our sense of civic responsibility. If the crime is this bad, we should encourage a partnership between the police, the schools, and the neighborhood instead of paying some MAN with a gun to solve the issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Esquire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Esquire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 18:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;why should we put our lives on the line to do a job we pay taxes for, a service that we implicitly sign the social contract for?&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I could not agree with you more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;why should we put our lives on the line to do a job we pay taxes for, a service that we implicitly sign the social contract for?&#8221;</p>
<p>I could not agree with you more.</p>
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		<title>By: cnulan</title>
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		<dc:creator>cnulan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 13:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not seeing too many open-air drug markets outside the barrio and the hood, and in these, more in the latter than the former. Progressive politics on this specific law and order issue are about as stupid and confused as most social conservative politics. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Neighborhoods ruled by young men are incompatible with the normative social order. So either they are restored to management by older, more responsible, and communitarian men, or, they are subject to colonial occupation by paramilitary police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m not seeing too many open-air drug markets outside the barrio and the hood, and in these, more in the latter than the former. Progressive politics on this specific law and order issue are about as stupid and confused as most social conservative politics. </p>
<p>Neighborhoods ruled by young men are incompatible with the normative social order. So either they are restored to management by older, more responsible, and communitarian men, or, they are subject to colonial occupation by paramilitary police.</p>
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