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	<title>Comments on: The Political Magic Number</title>
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		<title>By: The Good Doctor</title>
		<link>http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2008/05/23/the-political-magic-number/#comment-19482</link>
		<dc:creator>The Good Doctor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 04:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$4/gallon will do SOMETHING. But it'll take something a bit more given that those taxes have to come from somewhere, and folks no longer believe government is particularly good at solving public problems. 

Webb has a new book out and while I don't think he's talking about changing existing arrangements--he is a Democrat after all--i BELIEVE he's interested in trying to generate a new populist consensus. There's a video over at &lt;a href="ta-nehisi.com/2008/05/strange-bedfellows-blacks-and-applachian-whites.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Ta-Nehisi's&lt;/a&gt; that I tried to find for my own purposes but could not. Webb is talking about the need for a coalition like what I talk about above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$4/gallon will do SOMETHING. But it&#8217;ll take something a bit more given that those taxes have to come from somewhere, and folks no longer believe government is particularly good at solving public problems. </p>
<p>Webb has a new book out and while I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s talking about changing existing arrangements&#8211;he is a Democrat after all&#8211;i BELIEVE he&#8217;s interested in trying to generate a new populist consensus. There&#8217;s a video over at <a href="ta-nehisi.com/2008/05/strange-bedfellows-blacks-and-applachian-whites.html" rel="nofollow">Ta-Nehisi&#8217;s</a> that I tried to find for my own purposes but could not. Webb is talking about the need for a coalition like what I talk about above.</p>
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		<title>By: albatross</title>
		<link>http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2008/05/23/the-political-magic-number/#comment-19480</link>
		<dc:creator>albatross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 02:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lester,

It sure seems to me that $4/gallon gasoline is going to do more for getting people to support public transit than any amount of political organizing.  

I wish I knew what would get people interested in fixing public education.  As far as I can tell, the political importance of the schools' role as a source of patronage and jobs trumps the importance of actually educating kids.  And the role of school district boundaries in determining property values in the suburbs also trumps the importance of educating kids.  It seems like any serious change is going to have to come from outside the two big parties and the existing political arrangements.  

I'm not sure about public health.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lester,</p>
<p>It sure seems to me that $4/gallon gasoline is going to do more for getting people to support public transit than any amount of political organizing.  </p>
<p>I wish I knew what would get people interested in fixing public education.  As far as I can tell, the political importance of the schools&#8217; role as a source of patronage and jobs trumps the importance of actually educating kids.  And the role of school district boundaries in determining property values in the suburbs also trumps the importance of educating kids.  It seems like any serious change is going to have to come from outside the two big parties and the existing political arrangements.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure about public health.</p>
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		<title>By: The Good Doctor</title>
		<link>http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2008/05/23/the-political-magic-number/#comment-19470</link>
		<dc:creator>The Good Doctor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 15:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we are talking about an ideological shift that will hasten the re-engineering that you speak of, because at base this re-engineering will only occur if a significant amount of bodies and/or loot convinces local, regional, state, and federal governments to make the needed investments (and to raise the necessary taxes).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we are talking about an ideological shift that will hasten the re-engineering that you speak of, because at base this re-engineering will only occur if a significant amount of bodies and/or loot convinces local, regional, state, and federal governments to make the needed investments (and to raise the necessary taxes).</p>
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		<title>By: cnulan</title>
		<link>http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2008/05/23/the-political-magic-number/#comment-19469</link>
		<dc:creator>cnulan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 14:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Les, are we talking about ideology here, or, are we talking about the re-engineering of the infrastructure that will be required for the U.S. to recover from being a deindustrialized economic basket case?

F'zample, we have a constipated light rail initiative underway in the greater metropolitan sprawl. It was enacted by referendum, and then derailed by mayoral and city council veto. Actually a quite shocking and yet jarringly controversial turn of events.

Most folks being pounded out in the far flung suburban rings remain opposed to light rail that would serve their economic interests, if that light rail also entails access by inner city folks to their far flung suburban flight refuges. 

Second, KC is a legendary anomaly in the annals of public education. 

As for the "public health" I'd need to mull that one over a bit further, but suffice it to say, private interests have plunged billions into the effort to make KC a biotechnology hub, only to be thwarted by rural Missouri and Kansas theoconservative nitwits seeking to legislate against science that doesn't respect the "dignity and sanctity of life"......,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Les, are we talking about ideology here, or, are we talking about the re-engineering of the infrastructure that will be required for the U.S. to recover from being a deindustrialized economic basket case?</p>
<p>F&#8217;zample, we have a constipated light rail initiative underway in the greater metropolitan sprawl. It was enacted by referendum, and then derailed by mayoral and city council veto. Actually a quite shocking and yet jarringly controversial turn of events.</p>
<p>Most folks being pounded out in the far flung suburban rings remain opposed to light rail that would serve their economic interests, if that light rail also entails access by inner city folks to their far flung suburban flight refuges. </p>
<p>Second, KC is a legendary anomaly in the annals of public education. </p>
<p>As for the &#8220;public health&#8221; I&#8217;d need to mull that one over a bit further, but suffice it to say, private interests have plunged billions into the effort to make KC a biotechnology hub, only to be thwarted by rural Missouri and Kansas theoconservative nitwits seeking to legislate against science that doesn&#8217;t respect the &#8220;dignity and sanctity of life&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;,</p>
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		<title>By: The Good Doctor</title>
		<link>http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2008/05/23/the-political-magic-number/#comment-19467</link>
		<dc:creator>The Good Doctor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 13:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I could boil it down to three I'd say increased public transportation, public education, and public health.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I could boil it down to three I&#8217;d say increased public transportation, public education, and public health.</p>
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		<title>By: cnulan</title>
		<link>http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2008/05/23/the-political-magic-number/#comment-19466</link>
		<dc:creator>cnulan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 12:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tootsie, the "libertarian" brand has been badly infected and subverted by jarringly non-mutualist, non free-marketist interests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tootsie, the &#8220;libertarian&#8221; brand has been badly infected and subverted by jarringly non-mutualist, non free-marketist interests.</p>
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		<title>By: cnulan</title>
		<link>http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2008/05/23/the-political-magic-number/#comment-19465</link>
		<dc:creator>cnulan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 12:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the gist of that proposed "working ideology"?

&lt;i&gt;(or should that be "working" ideology?)&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the gist of that proposed &#8220;working ideology&#8221;?</p>
<p><i>(or should that be &#8220;working&#8221; ideology?)</i></p>
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		<title>By: Kismet</title>
		<link>http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2008/05/23/the-political-magic-number/#comment-19463</link>
		<dc:creator>Kismet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 09:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ah, so THIS was the insurgency you were up to when I saw you on the metro....

interesting post.  Good to see you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ah, so THIS was the insurgency you were up to when I saw you on the metro&#8230;.</p>
<p>interesting post.  Good to see you.</p>
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		<title>By: tootsie</title>
		<link>http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2008/05/23/the-political-magic-number/#comment-19462</link>
		<dc:creator>tootsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 07:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Workers organizing for their interest,sounds familiar i.e. the labor party maybe a coalition with libertarian too extract a viable third party from this new landscape</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Workers organizing for their interest,sounds familiar i.e. the labor party maybe a coalition with libertarian too extract a viable third party from this new landscape</p>
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