You on the West Coast? Didn’t know that.

Nah. Staten Island.

In nay case. It’s not an insult. It’s an acknowledgement of what we are. We all are obsolete farm equipment. We just need to stop thinking like farm equipment.

Okay, I get what you’re saying.

how do you pay for training? Get the churches and schools to donate training place. There you go.

And that gets us WHERE exactly? Is training JUST about a place?

Craig, there are all types of ways we can imagine neighborhood associations combining to garner resources from the state. No one disagrees that this endeavor is worthwhile. But the discussion at hand IS about Philly. This isn’t an attempt by me or anyone else to exert an unfair amount of control over the discussion. The Philadelphia police officer isn’t asking that neighborhood associations organize to even THINK about, much less demand resources from the state.

But it’s at least more onto than suggesting that the folks who’re being underserved should appeal to the clusterphukked entity that underserves them to simply do better.

The police officer is blaming black people for the problem that he’s in charge of dealing with, and then not offering ANY resources in dealing with this issue. Not training, not loot, not accountability mechanisms, not enforcement mechanisms, not ANYTHING.

Now if you want to GET us to a place where we can ask another set of questions (how might neighborhood associations combine to get more resources to engage in conflict resolution? what models are scalable at low costs?) we can move there. But while that is a conversation worth having….that isn’t the conversation that the Philly initiative paves the way for.

What does that mean? Since you’re apparently referring to me, I’d like to know how I’m being insulted.

You on the West Coast? Didn’t know that.

In nay case. It’s not an insult. It’s an acknowledgement of what we are. We all are obsolete farm equipment. We just need to stop thinking like farm equipment.

We need to think like farmers.

Farmers plant stuff. They do things. They don’t discuss the fact that the sun might not shin at night all day long.

They make things grow starting with a bit of soil and little seeds.

http://assaultonblacksanity.blogspot.com/2007/09/farm-equipment-for-sale.html

Who thinks the Philkadelphia Chief of Police’s plan…NOT your alternative but HIS plan, train 10,000 Black men in conflict resolution and send them out to patrol the streets…will actually work?

that rigid control of discussion

Rigid control of assholes.

Watch.

What does that mean? Since you’re apparently referring to me, I’d like to know how I’m being insulted.

You might call such a shell game justice, in much the way your co-partisans are wont to call an oil-jacking “democracy building” but then your current odd-bedfellows status with P6 would come to a jarring halt.

Philadelphia has a highly unusual governance structure…., looks like badges could be issued from the sheriff’s dept…, more particularly, however, it appears that that governance structure along with institutionalized “worst practices” may have something to do with how incapable the police force is of doing any better.

How do you pay for training? Get the churches and schools to donate training place. There you go.