Comments on: Stop the Violence in Newark and Oakland http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2007/08/07/stop-the-violence-in-newark-and-oakland/ The Future is Here Sat, 31 Jul 2010 12:05:56 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Lester Spence http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2007/08/07/stop-the-violence-in-newark-and-oakland/comment-page-1/#comment-6945 Lester Spence Wed, 08 Aug 2007 11:31:18 +0000 http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2007/08/07/stop-the-violence-in-newark-and-oakland/#comment-6945 doh! doh!

]]> By: drydock http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2007/08/07/stop-the-violence-in-newark-and-oakland/comment-page-1/#comment-6944 drydock Wed, 08 Aug 2007 11:24:03 +0000 http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2007/08/07/stop-the-violence-in-newark-and-oakland/#comment-6944 I meant the Chip Johnson piece you linked to, not another article. I meant the Chip Johnson piece you linked to, not another article.

]]> By: Lester Spence http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2007/08/07/stop-the-violence-in-newark-and-oakland/comment-page-1/#comment-6929 Lester Spence Tue, 07 Aug 2007 19:33:26 +0000 http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2007/08/07/stop-the-violence-in-newark-and-oakland/#comment-6929 could you provide a link to the chip johnson article? could you provide a link to the chip johnson article?

]]> By: drydock http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2007/08/07/stop-the-violence-in-newark-and-oakland/comment-page-1/#comment-6923 drydock Tue, 07 Aug 2007 18:12:23 +0000 http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2007/08/07/stop-the-violence-in-newark-and-oakland/#comment-6923 "the poor and working class of Oakland and Newark ARE the “liberal left”." Let me modify a little-- the flatlanders --of those that did vote --probably did support Dellums. However the backbone coalition that got Dellums election were black business people like Geoffery Peete, some union people and professional activists around institutions like KPFA. They are the ones really calling the shots. Some of the same people got Jerry Brown elected as well. Hitchens (as well the different piece by Chip Johnson) has picked up on some of the brewing controversy in Oakland though he overestimates the religious angle at the expense of the racial dynamics of the recent Chauncey Bailey murder IMO. http://www.slate.com/id/2171745/ “the poor and working class of Oakland and Newark ARE the “liberal left”.”

Let me modify a little– the flatlanders –of those that did vote –probably did support Dellums. However the backbone coalition that got Dellums election were black business people like Geoffery Peete, some union people and professional activists around institutions like KPFA. They are the ones really calling the shots. Some of the same people got Jerry Brown elected as well.

Hitchens (as well the different piece by Chip Johnson) has picked up on some of the brewing controversy in Oakland though he overestimates the religious angle at the expense of the racial dynamics of the recent Chauncey Bailey murder IMO.

http://www.slate.com/id/2171745/

]]> By: Lester Spence http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2007/08/07/stop-the-violence-in-newark-and-oakland/comment-page-1/#comment-6921 Lester Spence Tue, 07 Aug 2007 16:51:23 +0000 http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2007/08/07/stop-the-violence-in-newark-and-oakland/#comment-6921 I'd modify your comments slightly...the poor and working class of Oakland and Newark ARE the "liberal left" you refer to. They aren't going anywhere. And Newark represents an interesting comparison. Booker is neo-liberal if ANYTHING...but while he at least stays around (an important though symbolic gesture) there are a group of people tied to his predecessor that want to see him gone. I’d modify your comments slightly…the poor and working class of Oakland and Newark ARE the “liberal left” you refer to. They aren’t going anywhere. And Newark represents an interesting comparison. Booker is neo-liberal if ANYTHING…but while he at least stays around (an important though symbolic gesture) there are a group of people tied to his predecessor that want to see him gone.

]]> By: drydock http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2007/08/07/stop-the-violence-in-newark-and-oakland/comment-page-1/#comment-6918 drydock Tue, 07 Aug 2007 15:08:01 +0000 http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2007/08/07/stop-the-violence-in-newark-and-oakland/#comment-6918 1. The murder of Chauncey Bailey a black journalist by a group of (nutjobs) Black Muslims is the top story in this week of carnage in Oakland. 2. As Chip Johnson article points out leftist mayor Ron Dellums is nowhere to found despite the ongoing violence in Oakland-- 8 murders in 4 days. 3. If you were to canvas the poor and working class flatlands of Oakland, crime and violence is overwheliming would be the top issue. The liberal-left, like Dellums who they got elected, is pretty much AWOL on the issue. 1. The murder of Chauncey Bailey a black journalist by a group of (nutjobs) Black Muslims is the top story in this week of carnage in Oakland.

2. As Chip Johnson article points out leftist mayor Ron Dellums is nowhere to found despite the ongoing violence in Oakland– 8 murders in 4 days.

3. If you were to canvas the poor and working class flatlands of Oakland, crime and violence is overwheliming would be the top issue. The liberal-left, like Dellums who they got elected, is pretty much AWOL on the issue.

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