Comments on: Obama’s first encounter with Detroit Mayor rocky http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2007/05/07/obamas-first-encounter-with-detroit-mayor-rocky/ The Future is Here Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:26:42 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: DLT http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2007/05/07/obamas-first-encounter-with-detroit-mayor-rocky/comment-page-1/#comment-2613 DLT Wed, 09 May 2007 18:09:54 +0000 http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2007/05/07/obamas-first-encounter-with-detroit-mayor-rocky/#comment-2613 I don't think we are critics, more readers in search of information and thoughtful discussion. I don’t think we are critics, more readers in search of information and thoughtful discussion.

]]> By: Lester Spence http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2007/05/07/obamas-first-encounter-with-detroit-mayor-rocky/comment-page-1/#comment-2539 Lester Spence Tue, 08 May 2007 10:17:55 +0000 http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2007/05/07/obamas-first-encounter-with-detroit-mayor-rocky/#comment-2539 kweenkong i think that you (along with dlt and em) have a point. and i hope that's his real groove. i just can't hold my breath. thanks for reading!! :) SM: <blockquote> But should I let them in office because certain personal charms they possess or that I could imagine hanging out with them in a club or we may belong to the same frat? (I’m not saying that you feel that way.)</blockquote> hell no. and i'd place adrian fenty and cory booker within the new generation...what i'm calling deracialization 2.0. kweenkong i think that you (along with dlt and em) have a point. and i hope that’s his real groove. i just can’t hold my breath. thanks for reading!! :)

SM:

But should I let them in office because certain personal charms they possess or that I could imagine hanging out with them in a club or we may belong to the same frat? (I’m not saying that you feel that way.)

hell no. and i’d place adrian fenty and cory booker within the new generation…what i’m calling deracialization 2.0.

]]> By: kweenkong http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2007/05/07/obamas-first-encounter-with-detroit-mayor-rocky/comment-page-1/#comment-2530 kweenkong Tue, 08 May 2007 05:57:37 +0000 http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2007/05/07/obamas-first-encounter-with-detroit-mayor-rocky/#comment-2530 Very nice blog, and quite a thought-provoking post. I'll tell ya', if a black person wants to win an election where he/she must rely on mainstream votes, there just can't be much talk about helping African Americans. Obama's "magic" is that he's "articulate." He's "not like your average black." Meaning he's "better" than most other African Americans. Why, Obama's almost not black at all, some think. Definitely not "too" black. About Obama distancing himself from so many race-related promises... I'm in Chicago and have attended Obama's church quite a bit. The pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, is about the downest, most politically insightful, most intellectual cats (originally from Philly) that you will ever meet. From the pulpit in his megachurch called Trinity United, Rev. Wright's every Sunday probably spends more time preaching about Sunnis, the Taliban, and backroom neo-con strategies than he does the good Lord. And this is Obama's mentor (although they've had a falling out lately). So I trust that Obama will do the right thing(s). But I doubt we'll see him taking an early lead about initiatives benefiting minorities or the poor. He'd be smart, I believe, to let some other candidates trot out first with black initiatives, and then pull up the rear with something bigger and better. But only when the time is right. Not first, and no time soon. Best, and thanks for letting me express. ;-) "kweenkong" http://southsidestar.blogspot.com Very nice blog, and quite a thought-provoking post.

I’ll tell ya’, if a black person wants to win an election where he/she must rely on mainstream votes, there just can’t be much talk about helping African Americans.

Obama’s “magic” is that he’s “articulate.” He’s “not like your average black.” Meaning he’s “better” than most other African Americans. Why, Obama’s almost not black at all, some think. Definitely not “too” black.

About Obama distancing himself from so many race-related promises… I’m in Chicago and have attended Obama’s church quite a bit. The pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, is about the downest, most politically insightful, most intellectual cats (originally from Philly) that you will ever meet.

From the pulpit in his megachurch called Trinity United, Rev. Wright’s every Sunday probably spends more time preaching about Sunnis, the Taliban, and backroom neo-con strategies than he does the good Lord. And this is Obama’s mentor (although they’ve had a falling out lately).

So I trust that Obama will do the right thing(s). But I doubt we’ll see him taking an early lead about initiatives benefiting minorities or the poor. He’d be smart, I believe, to let some other candidates trot out first with black initiatives, and then pull up the rear with something bigger and better. But only when the time is right. Not first, and no time soon.

Best, and thanks for letting me express. ;-)

“kweenkong”

http://southsidestar.blogspot.com

]]> By: Submariner http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2007/05/07/obamas-first-encounter-with-detroit-mayor-rocky/comment-page-1/#comment-2510 Submariner Mon, 07 May 2007 18:49:30 +0000 http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2007/05/07/obamas-first-encounter-with-detroit-mayor-rocky/#comment-2510 Dr Spence, where do Corey Booker and Adrian Fenty fit in this model? And what about Ray Nagin? I recall that when he first ran as mayor he was quite a darling of the establishment but later, during his reelection campaign, he made overt appeals to racial solidarity. I think we all can agree that competence and high ethical standards are absolute requirements of our politicians. But ever since the television became prominent in how citizens view candidates we have been making choices based on 'likability'. Therefore someone like G.W. Bush who has every patrician signifier possible is viewed as a 'man of the people' because he has a drawl or drops his g's. I'm sure I could kick it with Kirkpatrick or have a brew with W. But should I let them in office because certain personal charms they possess or that I could imagine hanging out with them in a club or we may belong to the same frat? (I'm not saying that you feel that way.) Dr Spence, where do Corey Booker and Adrian Fenty fit in this model? And what about Ray Nagin? I recall that when he first ran as mayor he was quite a darling of the establishment but later, during his reelection campaign, he made overt appeals to racial solidarity. I think we all can agree that competence and high ethical standards are absolute requirements of our politicians. But ever since the television became prominent in how citizens view candidates we have been making choices based on ‘likability’. Therefore someone like G.W. Bush who has every patrician signifier possible is viewed as a ‘man of the people’ because he has a drawl or drops his g’s. I’m sure I could kick it with Kirkpatrick or have a brew with W. But should I let them in office because certain personal charms they possess or that I could imagine hanging out with them in a club or we may belong to the same frat? (I’m not saying that you feel that way.)

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