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		<title>By: The case of Shaquanda Cotton : Dr. Lester K. Spence</title>
		<link>http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2007/01/18/open-source-black-politics/#comment-1285</link>
		<dc:creator>The case of Shaquanda Cotton : Dr. Lester K. Spence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] directly to each other and using our connections to further develop the notion of what I call open source politics. Partially as a result of the increased scrutiny engendered by black bloggers, the Cotton case (and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] directly to each other and using our connections to further develop the notion of what I call open source politics. Partially as a result of the increased scrutiny engendered by black bloggers, the Cotton case (and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Late night power tools at Dr. Lester K. Spence</title>
		<link>http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2007/01/18/open-source-black-politics/#comment-697</link>
		<dc:creator>Late night power tools at Dr. Lester K. Spence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 09:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in Seven Minutes&#8211;I&#8217;ve written about the need for transparency in my discussion of open source black politics before. These tools are easily portable to deal with the issues black communities [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in Seven Minutes&#8211;I&#8217;ve written about the need for transparency in my discussion of open source black politics before. These tools are easily portable to deal with the issues black communities [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lester Spence</title>
		<link>http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2007/01/18/open-source-black-politics/#comment-510</link>
		<dc:creator>Lester Spence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 23:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Open source is still the perfect language.  Someone with a different set of beliefs--or even beliefs diametrically opposed to group A--can take the tools and do whatever they want with them AS LONG AS THEY ARE TRANSPARENT.  For me generating and regenerating transparency is an action in and of itself.  What happens afterward IS on the licensor.

Which is why I responded to Dburt the way I did.  He has an end goal in mind that does imply some type of coup or reverse merger.  I just have a process of getting things done.  Group A does not have to replace NAACP, or take its place (whatever that place may be).  It can only last as long as it takes to conduct a specific task.

I read the definition of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source_culture" rel="nofollow"&gt;open source culture&lt;/a&gt; and this fits exactly.  We aren't taking anything over, although as this philosophy grants more power to individuals (and to collectives) i think this will happen "naturally."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Open source is still the perfect language.  Someone with a different set of beliefs&#8211;or even beliefs diametrically opposed to group A&#8211;can take the tools and do whatever they want with them AS LONG AS THEY ARE TRANSPARENT.  For me generating and regenerating transparency is an action in and of itself.  What happens afterward IS on the licensor.</p>
<p>Which is why I responded to Dburt the way I did.  He has an end goal in mind that does imply some type of coup or reverse merger.  I just have a process of getting things done.  Group A does not have to replace NAACP, or take its place (whatever that place may be).  It can only last as long as it takes to conduct a specific task.</p>
<p>I read the definition of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source_culture" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/en.wikipedia.org');" rel="nofollow">open source culture</a> and this fits exactly.  We aren&#8217;t taking anything over, although as this philosophy grants more power to individuals (and to collectives) i think this will happen &#8220;naturally.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: MIB</title>
		<link>http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2007/01/18/open-source-black-politics/#comment-509</link>
		<dc:creator>MIB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 22:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;"So I create black group A in Baltimore, and use various tools to both make the activities of black Baltimore 'leaders' more transparent, and to offer a local alternative."&lt;/i&gt;

Not exactly.  The value of open source development applicable to politics is the definition (or perhaps, re-definition) of a creed or polity, in this case 'black politics' however defined by group A.  But group A's blueprint as intentionally distributed is raw; incomplete.  The remaining template would be left for others -- including black Baltimore 'leaders' -- to adopt and modify to completion &lt;b&gt;as they so desire&lt;/b&gt;.  'Open' in open source describes not only access (the pre-condition to transparency) but action; the licensee's not bound to honor directions or goals specified by the licensor.

A reverse merger, coup, and leveraged acquisition are strategies better suited for coercing institutional/agency accountability in the manner you seek.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;So I create black group A in Baltimore, and use various tools to both make the activities of black Baltimore &#8216;leaders&#8217; more transparent, and to offer a local alternative.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Not exactly.  The value of open source development applicable to politics is the definition (or perhaps, re-definition) of a creed or polity, in this case &#8216;black politics&#8217; however defined by group A.  But group A&#8217;s blueprint as intentionally distributed is raw; incomplete.  The remaining template would be left for others &#8212; including black Baltimore &#8216;leaders&#8217; &#8212; to adopt and modify to completion <b>as they so desire</b>.  &#8216;Open&#8217; in open source describes not only access (the pre-condition to transparency) but action; the licensee&#8217;s not bound to honor directions or goals specified by the licensor.</p>
<p>A reverse merger, coup, and leveraged acquisition are strategies better suited for coercing institutional/agency accountability in the manner you seek.</p>
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		<title>By: Spedy</title>
		<link>http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2007/01/18/open-source-black-politics/#comment-508</link>
		<dc:creator>Spedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 20:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Open Source is a good term.  I think that the previous organizations (NAACP and Rainbow PUSH) were open source initially.  Initially, they were open to "ALL" for the betterment of the Blacks in this country.  What "SEEMS" to be the problem is that access to the "source" code is no longer "FREE".  You must pay to play in the "NEW" so-called black organizations.

If I had a problem with the Chicago Police, I could not go "DIRECTLY" to Rev. Jackson.  To gain access to Obama, I would not be able to go "DIRECTLY" to him either.  Open and Free Access to the top brass, if you will, is what would make things transparent.  

PUSH does do some good things in Chicago, but I think some of the external things that Rev. Jackson jumps into are not worth it, in my opinion.  I can't speak on Sharpton's Action Network.  All I know about that is what I hear on his radio show.

As for Obama running for president, he'd not be as accessible as he is now, which is feeble in itself.  Personally, I don't he'd win but that's another post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Open Source is a good term.  I think that the previous organizations (NAACP and Rainbow PUSH) were open source initially.  Initially, they were open to &#8220;ALL&#8221; for the betterment of the Blacks in this country.  What &#8220;SEEMS&#8221; to be the problem is that access to the &#8220;source&#8221; code is no longer &#8220;FREE&#8221;.  You must pay to play in the &#8220;NEW&#8221; so-called black organizations.</p>
<p>If I had a problem with the Chicago Police, I could not go &#8220;DIRECTLY&#8221; to Rev. Jackson.  To gain access to Obama, I would not be able to go &#8220;DIRECTLY&#8221; to him either.  Open and Free Access to the top brass, if you will, is what would make things transparent.  </p>
<p>PUSH does do some good things in Chicago, but I think some of the external things that Rev. Jackson jumps into are not worth it, in my opinion.  I can&#8217;t speak on Sharpton&#8217;s Action Network.  All I know about that is what I hear on his radio show.</p>
<p>As for Obama running for president, he&#8217;d not be as accessible as he is now, which is feeble in itself.  Personally, I don&#8217;t he&#8217;d win but that&#8217;s another post.</p>
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		<title>By: Lester Spence</title>
		<link>http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2007/01/18/open-source-black-politics/#comment-507</link>
		<dc:creator>Lester Spence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 17:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i used the term open source black politics, just but my use of "politics" is inclusive.  we need open source black economics, and &lt;href="http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2007/01/20/building-black-networks-from-the-ground-up/"&gt;culture&lt;/a&gt; as well.  In fact, rather than privileging one of them as Cruse tried to do, I would say they can all (and perhaps should) occur simultaneously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i used the term open source black politics, just but my use of &#8220;politics&#8221; is inclusive.  we need open source black economics, and<br />
<href ="http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2007/01/20/building-black-networks-from-the-ground-up/">culture as well.  In fact, rather than privileging one of them as Cruse tried to do, I would say they can all (and perhaps should) occur simultaneously.</href>
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		<title>By: cnulan</title>
		<link>http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2007/01/18/open-source-black-politics/#comment-506</link>
		<dc:creator>cnulan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 17:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>open source business models would be very helpful, as well...,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>open source business models would be very helpful, as well&#8230;,</p>
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		<title>By: Lester Spence</title>
		<link>http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2007/01/18/open-source-black-politics/#comment-504</link>
		<dc:creator>Lester Spence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 03:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok.  So I create black group A in baltimore, and use various tools to both make the activities of black baltimore "leaders" more transparent, and to offer a local alternative.  The tools themselves are not proprietary, in that anyone can use them, and their findings are made as public as can possibly be--you don't have to be in black group A to get the information.  Nor do you have to be in black group A to implement the new ideas.  

I do think there are a number of challenges to overcome in this endeavor, as politics is about struggle.

Your concern, as I understand it, is replacing one centralized mode of blackness that privileges a group of individuals with another.  I don't see that happening here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok.  So I create black group A in baltimore, and use various tools to both make the activities of black baltimore &#8220;leaders&#8221; more transparent, and to offer a local alternative.  The tools themselves are not proprietary, in that anyone can use them, and their findings are made as public as can possibly be&#8211;you don&#8217;t have to be in black group A to get the information.  Nor do you have to be in black group A to implement the new ideas.  </p>
<p>I do think there are a number of challenges to overcome in this endeavor, as politics is about struggle.</p>
<p>Your concern, as I understand it, is replacing one centralized mode of blackness that privileges a group of individuals with another.  I don&#8217;t see that happening here.</p>
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		<title>By: MIB</title>
		<link>http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2007/01/18/open-source-black-politics/#comment-503</link>
		<dc:creator>MIB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 00:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typically, 'open source' describes a core, but incomplete framework that's freely distributed for others to interpret and complete as desired.  The term originated with software designers, IIRC, brainstorming ways to maximize development of their programs.  In short, their solution was to license source code to would-be developers.  Linus Torvadis does this with Linux.

So, to &lt;i&gt;wrest the Black agency&lt;/i&gt; (?) from the likes of (insert your high profile Black activist's name here) using open source methodology, someone, somewhere would first create a basic construct of Black polity that would be then adopted by vendors looking to access or utilize Black politics for their own purposes.   Just as I might try to secure license to Microsoft's Windows Mobile code if I wanted to develop and/or sell software for mobile devices. 

By 'identifiable entity' I didn't mean 'recognizable' vis-a-vis celebrity; just a certain person or group.  Neither did I intend to suggest only 1 version of 'Black' could function.  In fact, several variations on 'Black' can be created and exist simutaneously.  My concern here is with the propriety of a 'Black test' of someone's design that would be applied to anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typically, &#8216;open source&#8217; describes a core, but incomplete framework that&#8217;s freely distributed for others to interpret and complete as desired.  The term originated with software designers, IIRC, brainstorming ways to maximize development of their programs.  In short, their solution was to license source code to would-be developers.  Linus Torvadis does this with Linux.</p>
<p>So, to <i>wrest the Black agency</i> (?) from the likes of (insert your high profile Black activist&#8217;s name here) using open source methodology, someone, somewhere would first create a basic construct of Black polity that would be then adopted by vendors looking to access or utilize Black politics for their own purposes.   Just as I might try to secure license to Microsoft&#8217;s Windows Mobile code if I wanted to develop and/or sell software for mobile devices. </p>
<p>By &#8216;identifiable entity&#8217; I didn&#8217;t mean &#8216;recognizable&#8217; vis-a-vis celebrity; just a certain person or group.  Neither did I intend to suggest only 1 version of &#8216;Black&#8217; could function.  In fact, several variations on &#8216;Black&#8217; can be created and exist simutaneously.  My concern here is with the propriety of a &#8216;Black test&#8217; of someone&#8217;s design that would be applied to anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Lester Spence</title>
		<link>http://blacksmythe.com/blog/2007/01/18/open-source-black-politics/#comment-501</link>
		<dc:creator>Lester Spence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 19:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could you expand on that latter point?  This is not what i had in mind at all...I don't think it requires an identifiable entity, but I'd be interested in knowing why you think that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could you expand on that latter point?  This is not what i had in mind at all&#8230;I don&#8217;t think it requires an identifiable entity, but I&#8217;d be interested in knowing why you think that way.</p>
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